Game Theory: Joel's Choice Meant Nothing! (The Last of Us)

20 juuni 2020
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The Last of Us is one of the most gut wrenching games to come out in recent memory and, since The Last of Us Part 2 is out now, what better time to sink my teeth into this franchise! You know that gut punch, emotional rollercoaster ride I was just talking about? What if I told you that your final choice of the game to save Ellie or let her die to save the world was WRONG? What do I mean? Get ready Theorists, I'm about to blow your mind!
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  • When Ellie was tuning the guitar, I said sarcastically "Oh, I bet she's gonna play Megalovania." As soon as I heard those four notes, I fell out of my chair laughing.

    WHITESTRIPE99WHITESTRIPE995 місяців tagasi
    • Same🤣

      Ma. Jennie DuhaylungsodMa. Jennie DuhaylungsodPäev tagasi
    • IKR! Took me a couple milliseconds to recognize the tune, and then I was like "who's ready to have a bad time?!"

      Code951Code9517 päeva tagasi
    • Same

      Player 11Player 119 päeva tagasi
    • Same

      Da bold action manDa bold action man15 päeva tagasi
    • Exactly what I did

      Kenes SugralinovKenes Sugralinov15 päeva tagasi
  • How do I show Ellie this?

    Hannah HighwayHannah HighwayTund tagasi
  • Yes just find the right person and that is doctor mario

    Purple GuyPurple GuyPäev tagasi
  • Uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh Why did use megalovainia

    Ma. Jennie DuhaylungsodMa. Jennie DuhaylungsodPäev tagasi
  • I like to believe fireflies were delusionaly desperate.

    mr maxwellmr maxwell3 päeva tagasi
  • I think some people need to pay attention better to the story. Ellie wanted to have her immunity mean something. She wanted there to be a vaccine made from her nomatter the cost but I guess its hard to read sometimes

    Sir FrostyFlakesSir FrostyFlakes5 päeva tagasi
  • the scientist team 6:03

    spacyrobin28spacyrobin285 päeva tagasi
  • That start of the video was so funny I laughed so hard!!

    KirbKirb6 päeva tagasi
  • Funny how my name is Joel

    Project AshProject Ash9 päeva tagasi
  • Sounds like real life I don’t see the problem o loved last of us 2

    HalifaxHalifax9 päeva tagasi
  • I thought something was off about the science. But I guess game developers can't think of or research everything And yet youtuber are able to look into a lot of the science and explain it in simple enough terms for their viewers to understand.

    ETPangilinan1ETPangilinan19 päeva tagasi
  • Should have had engie face

  • this makes all the tears from the last of us 2 way more meaningful

    KniivexKniivex10 päeva tagasi
  • 8:04 karens need to see this, i fckin swear.

    yeonnieeyeonniee11 päeva tagasi
  • Well, the FEDs aren't wrong calling the Fireflies a group of lunatic terrorists. Just happened to remember that in the game the FEDs are the only faction with actual capability on both industrial, educational, and research sides (while keeping everyone under martial law that is). If anything, the fireflies are the last group of people that could ever come up with anything useful.

    BenlexBenlex12 päeva tagasi
  • I only understood half of what u just said

    Ryan GibsonRyan Gibson15 päeva tagasi
  • 0:10 epic sans moment right there

    tepin adonatepin adona17 päeva tagasi
  • This is an argument I had defending Joel's actions against a soy boy saying he deserved his death after playing TLOU2. A vaccine & an antiviral wouldnt work against a fungus infection & if people were being born immune then they are adapting to the fungal growth & you're fighting adaption by killing them lmao

    Zman 1471Zman 147120 päeva tagasi
  • Karen:this video right here officer

    Ryan ReynoldsRyan Reynolds23 päeva tagasi
  • I hate covid-19 and Clickers

    Jason GreenJason Green24 päeva tagasi
  • 3:20 Now I feel bad for Nathan Drake

    Just_ AdzzzJust_ Adzzz25 päeva tagasi
  • Matt: But hey that’s just a theory Me: wait that’s actual science, not theory

    HimDevHimDev26 päeva tagasi
  • They might not know the difference of vaccine and medicine the thing they want to make is medicine because they should've use the weakened fungi instead 😂😂😂

    Manuel BautistaManuel Bautista26 päeva tagasi
  • Joey choice meant the last of us 2

    flavia silvaflavia silva27 päeva tagasi
  • The school: teaches u that you can only make vaccines from viruses Some dumb people: i WaNnA lEaRn hOw To PaY tAxEs Also those people: You can definitely make a vaccine for fungus infections

    Bahar 00Bahar 0027 päeva tagasi
  • !!!

    Yesss sirYesss sir28 päeva tagasi
  • Its ironic. Many people including Kamala Harris are refusing the vaccine just because of the president in office. severe stupidity. wonder if she would take a vaccine for the zombification virus? wait, its already too late for her. lol

    outworlddragoonoutworlddragoon29 päeva tagasi
  • The thing the fireflies are trying to do isn't actually making a vaccine. My understanding is that Elie has a safer strain of the fungus that prevents her from getting the bad , which if transplanted in others would act in a similar manner. Though, you probably wouldn't need to actually even open up her brain to get at the fungus, and if you did you would only need a couple of cells, not the hole thing, so the fireflies are still dumb.

    PiguyalamodePiguyalamode29 päeva tagasi
  • So the second part of the game is absolutely pointless? Can you imagine Abby's face if someone told her, that her dad had no idea what he was doing, and by killing Ellie, he would destroy the chance of having a vaccine?

    Aris5xgAris5xg29 päeva tagasi
  • Man I mess Joel.... :(

    Shikido SanShikido SanМісяць tagasi
  • Sooo joel could’ve had Ellie and the world would also be safe? 😐 too late for that now

    Javier LopezJavier LopezМісяць tagasi
  • I was so mad with number 2 well disappointed is more accurate

    Jeff HoughJeff HoughМісяць tagasi
  • The Karen who won’t let her kids have vaccines

    Owen ClarkOwen ClarkМісяць tagasi
  • I don't know how but we need to show this video to Ellie and Abby

    Gustavo XavierGustavo XavierМісяць tagasi
  • I can't remember but I thought they were trying to get the weaker fungus to produce the vaccine but it was lodged in her brain, and they couldn't get it out without her dying

    A RA RМісяць tagasi
  • Joel was just an anti vaxxer

    A RA RМісяць tagasi
  • This proves Druckmann is dumb

    Антон ТатаровАнтон ТатаровМісяць tagasi
    • @Dutch Vin der Linder what I’m trying to say is that medical advancement has stayed the same because of the cordyceps meaning any longtime doctors that still remain would have to perform medical procedures purely off of memory or the little to no textbooks about medicinal related topics

      Diego Devito3198Diego Devito319819 päeva tagasi
    • No. This proves he’s smart. You think this was on purpose. In a Post apocalyptic world there probably isn’t many science and medical related textbooks. Any doctor would have to rely on memory after many years of survival.

      Diego Devito3198Diego Devito319829 päeva tagasi
  • Don't let anti-vaxxers see this video 🤣

    mercury vincentmercury vincentМісяць tagasi
  • I want just coz therys

    peter stanthorpepeter stanthorpeМісяць tagasi
  • bruh i learned more in 12 minutes than 7 hours in school

    Gunnar PitzGunnar PitzМісяць tagasi
  • But in the game the doctor said that the fungus in ellie has mutated and thats why she's immune so could they just isolate the mutates fungus and use that as the weakened strain to vaccinate people and make them immune

    Trey CooperTrey CooperМісяць tagasi
  • No wonder the "Zombies" act a little weird in the game, you can hear their suffering when they run towards you. Not the Clickers

    Goal: 1k subsGoal: 1k subsМісяць tagasi
  • loll

    Jangmo oJangmo oМісяць tagasi
  • Lol

    Najhely Rojas.pNajhely Rojas.pМісяць tagasi
  • I knew she was gonna play that song.

    Jrs gameingJrs gameingМісяць tagasi
  • What's funny is that the game actually mentioned in little journals, notes, and recording that you can find that the likelihood of success is incredibly low for the surgery to begin with because of the fact that Cordiceps is a fungus, not a virus. So, to make matters worse, they acted out of fear rather than sound judgement.

    Philosophical_CactusPhilosophical_CactusМісяць tagasi
  • Thank you for finally putting into words why i thought killing the ONLY known fungi immune human to this virus was a terrible idea.

    AugmentalAugmentalМісяць tagasi
  • After tune up: (first note) Everyone: Ah ok. Megalovania you say.

    Turbokid3669Turbokid3669Місяць tagasi
  • Did she actually play Megalovania or was that just amazingly edited? Sorry I haven't played the game lol. Yes, surprisingly, this is a legitimate question.

    Matthew LaverdeMatthew LaverdeМісяць tagasi
    • Edited

      Onefoot 4Onefoot 4Місяць tagasi
  • Corona viris

    McgoombaMcgoombaМісяць tagasi
  • I can understand what matpat just said but its hard to accept the fact that the main plot of the game was entirely false.

    Ayumu samaAyumu samaМісяць tagasi
  • Well the fungus that grown in ellie was mutated. It protected her from becoming a zombie. If you but the same mutated fungus from ellie to other healthy people maybe then they become immune too.

    Jiří KočerhánJiří KočerhánМісяць tagasi
  • 0:14 TheLastofUsolovania

    SquidBoi StudiosSquidBoi StudiosМісяць tagasi
  • Measles probably would be completely gone if it weren’t for anti-vaxxers

    Alyssa WilsonAlyssa WilsonМісяць tagasi
  • 2:33 Me: "Ok, hold up, now." 2:46 Also Me: "You had me in the first half, not gonna lie."

    The PhilosopherThe PhilosopherМісяць tagasi
  • Soooo did MatPat just cure Covid ??!? Lol 😂

    Ashley GibsonAshley GibsonМісяць tagasi
  • Don’t forget, the rule medicine operates on, above all else, is a simple phrase: “do no harm” killing Ellie for the vaccine is not only ineffective, but also a clear violation of every medical code

    Rob BagelRob BagelМісяць tagasi
  • all the people who disliked this video are anti-vaxers

    amino aminoamino aminoМісяць tagasi
  • 6:00

    Stevie BranhamStevie BranhamМісяць tagasi
  • TLOU isn't hard sci-fi, it's SyFy. According to Naughty Dog, the Fireflies would have succeeded in synthesizing a cure from Ellie's brain tissue. There isn't a single moment in either game that suggests otherwise. The Fireflies weren't "stupid," the game's science is pure fantasy and serves only to facilitate the plot's dramatic stakes. TLOU isn't about "man save girl from bad guys," it's about a man who doomed the world because he couldn't lose another daughter.

    ScottScottМісяць tagasi
    • @Mr. Note List of characters who say with absolute certainty that the Fireflies would have made the cure: Joel Marlene Jerry Mel Nora List of characters who raise even the slightest of doubts:

      ScottScottМісяць tagasi
    • @Scott Don't need to. When working with fiction you base it on reality until the story show reason to do otherwise.

      Mr. NoteMr. NoteМісяць tagasi
    • @Mr. Note Show me a single moment in either game that suggests the Fireflies might have failed to synthesize the cure.

      ScottScottМісяць tagasi
    • Naughty Dog opinion on it is completely irrelevant if they didn't add it to the ingame lore. As in something you can find in a document, or see in action, or hear in dialogue.

      Mr. NoteMr. NoteМісяць tagasi
  • Umm, Yeah... This Is hilarious.. No Questions asked... 🤣, Tell me I'm not the only one who see's Ellie as a Favorite Character? Also am I the only one who Loves The Last Of us🤔🤔

    IcekittensIcekittensМісяць tagasi
  • Abby's dad is so dumb not knowing this

    VTBU RoseVTBU RoseМісяць tagasi
  • The fact that you actually gave a proper explanation to all this. really shows how bad last of us 2 is.

    MikeEMikeEМісяць tagasi
  • That intro made me smile Lol

    jules CEjules CEМісяць tagasi
  • Hi Matt, the future here, assuming you wrote this less than a week before uploading this video, the virus went from 400k deaths worldwide to over 1 million in less then 3 months these are scary times especially considering the virus has killed more then twice the amount of people in half the time between the start of quarantine and this video being posted don't worry, it'll be over soon, love you all and stay safe the vaccin is on its way future out

    I am bad at naming thingsI am bad at naming thingsМісяць tagasi
  • Ellie must be immune. It can't be that she got infected with a less harmful mutation of the fungus, because the person that bit her was obviously infected with the "bad" fungus...did it mutate on the way from the the teeth to her skin???

    dfdhfhgjdfdhfhgjМісяць tagasi
  • To think that there a re STILL people out there that believe Joel is a bad person and "killed the world" for saving Ellie. There is TOO much information and facts that prove it. :/

    The GongoozlerThe GongoozlerМісяць tagasi
  • No one: Literally no one: Me when I look at the middle name from 8:24: D O E S I T S T A N D F O R A U G M E N T E D R E A L I T Y?!?!

    Insert Username HereInsert Username HereМісяць tagasi
  • Nice biology lesson but the bottom line is that it's just a game and requires a certain amount of suspended belief to be enjoyed like most Hollywood productions today. Recently I have been re-watching The Outer Limits. It was good in the 60's when I was 14 but at 65+ their science is so ridiculous that it's almost unwatchable. Anyway, a thumbs-up for a really nice presentation on your video

    Bill GBill GМісяць tagasi
  • But everyone who loves Abby will cry saying she was justified and Joel was evil...

    Jetblast01Jetblast01Місяць tagasi
    • @Pete lol that didn't take long

      Jetblast01Jetblast01Місяць tagasi
  • Great, that now means the story of LoU 2 is worse now, because now it means Abby doing [redacted] at the start of the game is just petty eye for eye revenge, and nothing to do with the same “one life for humanity” stuff that her group was spouting out

    Karl WittenburgKarl WittenburgМісяць tagasi
  • Even if mat pat was wrong no one cares cause its humanity its better with out us

    Ivan the dumb***Ivan the dumb***Місяць tagasi
  • What you are saying isn't really right. Fungal infections that are cutaneous are easy to treat. But if someone gets a systemic fungal infection then that is essentially a death sentence. Fungi are eukaryotes that are very similar to animals in terms of their genetic code. This means that a systemic fungal infection would be very difficult to be targeted without the treatment targeting your own body cells. There arent many fungi species that would cause systemic fungal infections (like the one in the last of us, but obviously in a non-zombifying way), but the rare times that someone inhales the spores of these lethal fungi, almost always they will die within a short span of time. So in response to your comment about viruses being harder to treat, I would say that compared to fungi that cause systemic fungal infections like the one in the game, viruses are way easier to treat.

    SamonSamonМісяць tagasi
  • E

    Antoni PedroAntoni PedroМісяць tagasi
  • The game actually does a good job of astablishing that the Fireflies are super incompetent, and as the player, you wouldn't believe that they could pull it off, they are just grasping at straws

    WhoCaresWhoCaresМісяць tagasi
  • How can ellie play megalovania after being born in an apocalyptic world?!?! She can't have heard it...Hey game theorist please make a theory about this

    DeirdreDeirdreМісяць tagasi
  • 0:15 megalovania???

    Cauan Soares maisaCauan Soares maisaМісяць tagasi
  • So we’re basically fu$#*d if the Ants go rogue

    MqamarMqamarМісяць tagasi
  • Haha u r a poor loser. R u in love with that kid Ellie? Haha pathetic.

    BZgABZgAМісяць tagasi
  • Funfact mushrooms are more related to animals than plants

    S.C.P - 049S.C.P - 049Місяць tagasi
  • I would have made the same choice. If it's between my son and the entire population of the earth, then the entire population of earth better start making peace with their gods.

    Laird of MisruleLaird of MisruleМісяць tagasi
  • Imagine if Ellie had watched this video at some point, her relationship with Joel would have been completely different :(

    Bnjmo MedBnjmo MedМісяць tagasi
  • 0:14 are ya winning, daughter

    oolexer bootenoolexer bootenМісяць tagasi
    • i disliked

      oolexer bootenoolexer bootenМісяць tagasi
  • Even more importantly than all the science in this video, in my opinion at least, is that even assuming that a 'vaccine' could have been manufactured and successfully distributed to the entire world in a fair, unbiased, totally not utilized for power and control over everyone manner... Joel still has absolutely zero moral obligation to allow Ellie to have her life taken for the 'good of the world'. Full stop.

    jimshaly1jimshaly12 місяці tagasi
  • 0:31 Jesus man. lol

    Lee PersonLee Person2 місяці tagasi
  • When me and my older sister watched my dad play TLOU and we saw the ending, my sister started to question the doctor's credentials SHE WAS RIGHT

    C A S T R I E L L EC A S T R I E L L E2 місяці tagasi
  • 7:37 "It is a huge, HUGE number" A quick Google search brought up a CDC study from 2017 that said the flu kills 646,000 people each year. 400,000 aren't that many for a global pandemic. It's like, what, 0.005% of the population?

    Queen Bitch KaNoMikoQueen Bitch KaNoMiko2 місяці tagasi
  • I find it stupid and impossible that ellie is the only human in the world who is immune. Like wtf? Out of all 7 billion people, there is only one immune human? Thats dumb.

    Jirhu PerezJirhu Perez2 місяці tagasi
  • By that point, Joel probably questions if humanity should live on. As literally everyone around him betrays him, is murdered or tries to murder him or the people he cares about. At that point, there’s exactly 1 person he knows is a decent, humane person left-Ellie. So, he chooses her.

    Just AguyJust Aguy2 місяці tagasi
  • Next Game Theory: Joel's Death Meant Nothing! (The Last of Us 2)

    JônatasJônatas2 місяці tagasi
  • Did everyone die and turned into zombies Cause i think global warming made the zombies

    Huab Ntsa YangHuab Ntsa Yang2 місяці tagasi
  • Doctors would’ve basically killed Ellie for no reason, Even though Joel Killed so many people just to save Ellie, nothing would’ve happened except for Ellie dying and no vaccine would be good

    BostonBraxoBostonBraxo2 місяці tagasi
  • I have a better name for this episode, The anti Karen game.

    The PencilistThe Pencilist2 місяці tagasi
  • Oh ma god I’m shook I never noticed you did tlou!

    DinathebearDinathebear2 місяці tagasi
  • 0:16 is that sans music IDK Tell me in the chat

    SuperSonicIsaihaSuperSonicIsaiha2 місяці tagasi
  • No 60% of deaths of the COVID-19

    Teagan FjermestadTeagan Fjermestad2 місяці tagasi
    • Are not from COVID-19

      Teagan FjermestadTeagan Fjermestad2 місяці tagasi
  • 1) This gives me hope that things will get better for us if medical science finds a breakthrough to use against the virus 2) This makes Last of Us 2 plot and ending hurt! I love you Naughty Dogs, but you're also dead to me now Great theory guys!

    LSWritingsLSWritings2 місяці tagasi
  • And so...from the rooftops came antivaxxers screaming blue murder with pitchforks and torches! Ahh....the idiocy!

    Edita MariguEdita Marigu2 місяці tagasi
  • So would it work if there’s a dead COVID-19 would take it down

    Ghost HunterGhost Hunter2 місяці tagasi
  • This Game is life changing thats all i say

    kasper _076kasper _0762 місяці tagasi